My final arguement on Thought Control 942 by: Christian Conkle Spiked Punch, that is one of the rudest messages I've read on this List ever. If you can't manage a civil discourse or express your opinion without degenerating into name-calling or frothing rants, then please withhold your comment. Just because someone disagrees with you is no reason to call them "Stupid" or to denegrate their opinion. I think you owe that author and the entire list an apology for having to read your heated insults. I have no issue with your opinion or your ability to have strong convictions. I have strong convictions too and often defend an argument too long because I know I'm right (or at least not wrong). But I never demean or insult anyone that disagrees with me or their viewpoints. Your insult was posted to the list and therefore not only insulted your target, but everyone who reads the list as well, including myself. Either apologize, clean up your act, or get off the list. Please. Christian Conkle